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What drives you?

Pretty personal question eh? Course i could move a few words around and it becomes less so; What do you drive? But really, who cares how you get from point A to point B? Seriously, i don’t mean to minimize the whole “boys and their toys” deal, but life should be deeper than that.

Nope, i’m talking about what gets your juices flowing? What makes you excited and thrilled to be alive? What turns your crank? Puts the siz in your sizzle? Come on now, you must be getting the picture. There’s got to be more driving the bus than just crawling out of bed every day and just doing it cause it’s there.

Sometimes i find retirement leaves us a little less (huh?). Hold on, let me explain: For many, work defined/defines us. It shouldn’t, but all too often it does. We get caught up in that frenzy and forget there is a whole other other out there. Mind you this is coming from someone who struggles with the term “balance.”

Lest i loose you completely, let me just say i found it easy to retire and leave it all behind. Having spent the past near on nine years, away from the craziness of work, i transitioned without much challenge. Playing became a way of life and while i always had stuff going on, i was free to walk about the cabin, no seat-belts needed.

Since joining the RCSC board, i have come to find myself somewhat reinvigorated. Nope, not a “missing work” thing, but just kind of excited about the prospects to grow, learn and give back. All too often as we age we forget we are still capable of picking up things that help us be better, do better.

Case in point: Twice this week i received emails from residents who wanted to share their opinions. Some good, some less than. As is my type, rather than chat on the phone i wanted to talk face to face. In the first situation, we didn’t see eye to eye. He invited me to his house and so i stopped by. We had a great time and spent a hour plus talking about Sun City and life in general.

The second is happening this morning: i am going to a residents house for coffee and hear some ideas he has long held. His excitement level is near the ten level and what’s cool is, listening to him gets mine in that same range. Seriously, i love people who feel their emotions and are able to articulate them. Agreeing is secondary (if that).

The point here is; both these guys are in their 80’s. Both are opinionated and both wanted someone to listen to their thoughts. That’s the perfect storm for me; i learned long ago listening was 85% of good communications skills. Besides, i love having the discussion with folks who love Sun City and care enough to want to share their thoughts.

Best of all, no matter the outcome, this is a win/win. I know from both guys this is the kind of stuff that gets their juices flowing and if you haven’t figured it out yet…it does for me as well. While others ponder the state of the nation, the fate of the world and all things Oscar related, i elect to live a much less stressful, more fulfilling Sun City simplicity. Nice.

Building a strong Foundation…

The good news in Sun City is people live longer; the bad news is, some of those that do, outlive their resources. It’s a challenge that has been in the community for years. As an interesting footnote: There was a time (1980’s) when Sun City didn’t have the ancillary care we do today. A study was done by a major university that pointed out that shortcoming and within 15 years large numbers of assisted and independent living complex’s sprung up within the walls.

Back to the case at hand: In 1986, the RCSC recognized a need. They saw a growing number of residents trying to get by on very limited resources and even though rec fee’s were low, some of the population could not make the payment. It’s been the way of the community for years; identify a problem and then find ways to fix it.

To do so, the board established the Sun City Foundation. It is an organization funded solely by donations from residents, clubs and organizations wanting to help their neighbors. With some 25 years under its belt, they have done a great job of assisting those in the most dire of need. It’s one of the things that makes Sun City so special.

This past week, i was elected to be president of the Foundation (one of the two board members assigned to the board has to be the president while the other serves as the vp). I’m not a big fan of titles, i’ve always more impressed by what people accomplish than by what their title was/is. Nothing has changed; i still see my roll as serving the residents and helping bring the Foundation to a more prominent role in the community.

We all know how financially challenging it is in this economy. We know people are living longer and costs are rising far quicker than any increases to social security. That hits those on fixed incomes harder. It leaves too many of our seniors in harms way. The assistance we give them is limited but i’m told by the board members doing the evaluations how much people appreciate the help.

At our last board meeting we had a great discussion. A good number of the board wanted to look at better defining and perhaps expanding the role the Sun City Foundation played in the community. Obviously that’s the easy part. The tougher choices will be based solely on just how much Sun City residents want to help those in need?

The Foundation does not exist without those of us who are able to send a few dollars more when we pay our rec fees. It won’t be easy, but we feel by better promoting the organization and showcasing its importance, Sun City residents will rise to the occasion like they have always done.

Stay tuned…

Chicken Soup for the Sun City Soul…

Anyone who has read any of the awesome Chicken Soup series knows the compelling stories that fill the pages and the inspiration that comes from them. It’s almost like being at a Gaither Family Homecoming where the Gaither Vocal Band rocks the house.

So this morning i literally sprung (pretty amazing for an old fat white guy) from the big old king-sized.. To say i was feeling inspiration wouldn’t be enough; motivation, exhilaration and rejuvenation just barely capture what was driving me to the keyboard to start banging out my thoughts

It’s funny, these stirrings in the soul have found me almost from the first day i stumbled across Sun City. To be honest, i wasn’t sure what they were in the beginning, i just knew there was something pretty cool going on inside me.

Turns out i’m not alone. Yesterday was another of our yearly orientation programs for new Sun City residents. I’ve made them all and never leave the sessions without that state of being pumped. Every time i get a chance to interact with those who just found Sun City it takes me back to that place in time, that first year in 2003 when we moved to Sun City and made it our home.

Retirement was a destination and we had reached it. The best part was, it was just the start of a whole new journey. I get to renew those feelings as i stop folks who walk by whatever table i’m working at. It’s odd, i know hundreds of Sun City residents but i don’t have many “close friends”. Truth be told i’d just as soon read a good book, than hang out and mingle with the boys.

But i digress, or is it regress, who cares? Since moving to Sun City, i’ve always put myself in volunteer positions where i get to talk to people. I become a social animal, albeit for that brief point where we share our stories of how and why we ended in the best retirement community in the country (IMHO).

The funny thing is i tend to pick those people who look i did when first arriving here: A bit overwhelmed by what i had stumbled upon, newbies that look like they have a thirst to take it all in. You can see it in the glow on their faces and the light in their eyes. It’s exciting to me to know they still exist, much like it did back when Sun City first opened in 1960.

Yesterday i talked to folks from Alaska who were still working; two weeks on, two off. A couple form New York who looked like they were lost in each other and when i mentioned it they responded with “that’s how us old hippies are.” I chatted with several folks who had moved here in November but hadn’t picked up their rec cards yet because they have been too busy remodeling their homes. And the ones that were still unpacking, having moved in a mere 4 days back were still in the state of shock.

The point is, every story is different, yet every one has the same excited ring to it. The funny thing is there are hundreds of oral histories at the Del Webb Sun Cities Museum that tell of that identical excitement. It’s about feeling good about their decision to having moved to Sun City.

It dawned on me after the close we are missing the mark. We should be able to record that new comer presentation and post it to our coming soon marketing website; make it available for everyone and anyone. Beyond the canned stuff, we can do roving mic interviews, talking to those new folks and letting the world see and feel that joy.

I know this sounds like an infomercial for Sun City, so be it. I’ve never been a salesman, but when i love something, the passion for it invariably becomes readilly apparent. Let’s face it, promoting something you love should be easy. Sun City is that darn good!

Let the sunshine…

1 million dollars baby! Okay, for the official record, the RCSC press release estimated it to be $937,255 over 15 years. Having been in the room during the presentation, the final amount will be worth well over either of the numbers listed above.

Here’s why: The investment in 14,000 + solar panels and the multiple locations was done on a lease/purchase agreement. There was no way we could put out the 10 million dollar cash outlay. It would entail borrowing money and we aren’t able to do that (that’s really a good thing).

The 15 year lease will allow us options for buy-outs along the way. Those buy-outs will only enhance the value of this agreement. Beyond that, there is so much more to this deal. Let me tell you about it.

Before i do that, a quick story. My folks moved to Sun City in the mid 90’s. Mind you, they found the heat in the valley of the sun a bit repressive. My father was a hoot in that he had a philosophy my wife and i carry forward in his absence. He insisted on finding a tree to park under whenever possible. Now even in the dark of the night, if we see an open spot under a tree, we take it, always laughing how pleased dad would be.

Now to the great news…along with the 14 projects (with 1 to be bid on), the 10 million dollar budget includes covered parking. The solar panels need be installed on top of fixed structures. In that many of locations have no place to do that, the costs include building what will be covered parking spots (with panels affixed above). Dad would love it and i suspect the vast majority of Sun City residents will as well.  

Let me also state for the record: This decision was made by the 2010 board. With that said, i may well be Sun City’s biggest fan for them having the courage to move forward on it. It is exactly the kind of thinking we need in Sun City to keep us current and vibrant. It will reduce our energy costs and provide us an inflation buffer as those electric costs increase (as we all know they will).

Make no mistake, this is a stroke of genius, brilliant. If there is a Sun City resident who opposes it, they will only be doing so due to not understanding how vital it is for us to get our arms and heads around costs. We have no upfront cash outlay, the project allows us to take advantage of grants and rebates via the lease agreements.

It is the best of all worlds. Congrats to the 2010 board and all of us in Sun City should be celebrating this decision and looking forward in ways to keep our costs low and the quality of life here high. Spectacular!

For those that missed it, here is the press release from the RCSC: http://www.sunaz.com/?id=328.

 

Keynesian Economic Theory and Sun City…

“Sun City is unique, a throwback to a more genteel time. While those outside the walls rush about, the pace of life in Sun City is slower, the sense of togetherness greater, and the commitment to enjoy what we have here almost limitless.”

The year was 2002 and i was near the end of my working life. I was the chairman for an organization called the International Foundation for Employee Benefits. Our primary role was developing education for both management and labor trustees serving on pension and health care plans.

It was a volunteer position and one i thoroughly enjoyed. I worked with some brilliant people who understood benefits far better than i; experts in their fields. We usually wound up the conference or convention with a social evening where we could chat and get to know one another better.

Even back then, our economy was beginning to falter. The boom of the mid to late 90’s was over and the downturn was coming. One of the presenters was an economist who was making frequent television appearances. We began talking and he said it was imperative the country look at tax cuts to stimulate the economy (part of the Keynesian Theory of economics).

I looked at him askew and replied simply, “really?” He was stunned in that most never challenged his thinking and why was some “labor goon” willing to engage him on his home turf? I’ll be the first to admit, i didn’t have a business school background. Economic theory was as foreign to me as breaking someone’s fingers was to him (that’s a joke by the way).

My training came from dealing with working men and women and from the owners that employed them. Our local had built several websites where research was a key fundamental to their existence. One of those dealt with changing employment trends and what the future held for the United States.

It was an interesting study for me in that i clearly saw there were dramatic changes coming. One where workers became almost meaningless in the grand scheme of things. We had become a throw away society and the business model embraced that same kind of thinking. Employees were going to become expendable in the growing job markets: Retail and the service sector were the two areas most jobs would be found. Employers like Wal-Mart had set the stage; use them for a few years and move them out. At a point in time, they became a liability rather than an asset.

I used this as the backdrop of the argument to the economist. The fact was, massive tax cuts meant little or nothing (other than money in their pockets) to those whose primary production was done in China or other third world countries. The bulk of what they invested in this country had little to do with long term growth. Jobs in the service sector or retail often paid next to nothing with virtually no benefits that a viable middle class relied upon.

The longer we talked, the more he understood where i was coming from. I had statistics to support my arguments and our discussion was fascinating. Sadly, as time marched on, most everything i had said to him has come to fruition. The new business model, the one embraced by most business schools, has turned our country and our way of life upside down. For that matter, most of the world is suffering an economic disaster of proportion most don’t know how to combat it.

When i retired in 2003, i left the staff at the local union i was president of with these simple words: “You will look back on these past ten years as the good old days.” I knew exactly what they were in for, little did i know it would get that bad, that quick.

So, what has this diatribe got to do with Sun City? Everything. The caption above is one i wrote for the magazine we produced at SCHOA back in 2007. I love the commentary because it captures exactly why most of us living here love it…why when we buy here we feel we have won the lottery and are now enjoying the good life.

Everything that goes on outside the walls is bigger than us. Virtually everything is faster paced, more frenzied and less comfortable. When i first found Sun City i saw the simplicity of a community founded on principals of a common goal; where being happy is an easy objective to attain if one simply lets go and enjoys what is straight in front of us.

Sun City is that darn good and each of us has an obligation to do whatever we can to keep it that way. It’s how it has worked for more than 50 years and how it will work for the next 50. We can’t change what is happening outside the walls, but we can keep Sun City a very special place to live if we all do our part. It’s still that simple.

“If i were king…”

The year was 1981 or 1982 and i had just finished a racquetball game with then president of the Minnesota AFL-CIO president Dave Roe. We were sitting in the steam room talking about organized labor and a comment was made about worker’s compensation and the sorry state it was in. I asked him one of my favorite lines and it went something like this: “if you could rebuild it from the ground up, would it look like it does today?”

Funny, that question always brings a smile to their face. Seems very little that evolves over time ever ends up looking like we think it should. Band-aids atop broken arms seldom results in well healed fractures.

Consequently, it was no surprise yesterday when i stopped for coffee (geez Starbucks is over priced, too bad we don’t have a community living room eh?) with an old friend who is like minded and he twisted the question just a touch to me. In fact, he started the conversation with tag line you see in the header: “If i were king, i would…” It was the exact variation i love to use in looking at what is and wondering what could be done to make it better.

What was so interesting/challenging is most of the things we talked about is doable. Let’s be blunt; Sun City is a great place to live, but i have to believe there are things almost anyone living here would love to do (or have done) to tweak it to be even better. It’s the human nature for some of us, to want to tinker and improve on what is in front of us.

I suppose some of you are quite contented with the status quo; nothing wrong with that by the way. What was the old line from Sly and the Family Stone? Different strokes for different folks. Just some of us are wired differently and feel a sense of accomplishment or purpose when we can make something work better than it has in the past: Akin to the old car collector who can take that rusted out 27 Ford and make it sparkle and purr like a kitten.

The good news is is Sun City is more like a really great 57 Chevy that just needs its engine tuned. Over the years boards have “fixed” problems by simply adding to the documents, changing direction or ignoring the intent and sometimes the content. Nothing evil or sinister, just internal combustion and inertia working over time.

Seems only fitting to end this metaphor filled blog with yet another (or is it a simile?). We know in Sun City, chiropractors are very busy. Seems almost everyone i bump into has been or is going in for another realignment. You know, that slight adjustment to get their old spine straightened out. So we stay in everyone’s comfort zone, let’s look at this like a trip to good old doctor Friendly.

I’m proposing we start now laying out suggestions to improve Sun City. Nothing too dramatic, we have enough of that going on already. I’m talking just common sense approaches to tweaking either the RCSC or other organizations that will make them more user friendly. Or if you really are daring, why not get out the robe, scepter and crown and see how it feels to be king for a day. Fun.

One of the keys to our future…

I’ve written volumes on the history of Sun City and always attempt to get readers to appreciate that the past can be a blueprint to our future. I know that sometimes is an over simplification, but ignoring what has worked for others is a fools game, at least in my humble opinion.

There is no more concise roadmap to why Sun City exploded under John Meeker’s direction from 1965 through 1978 than to look at his aggressive Play and Stay package. It was brilliant and anyone thinking that was then and this is now only need look around the country at new age restricted developments. It’s still the technique of choice for selling a lifestyle directed at seniors.

The reason it works is there has always been (and in all likelihood always will be) a stigma about moving to a location filled with “old people.” It was the greatest challenge for the Webb Corporation back in the 60’s and remains so yet today. The beauty of the program is in the simplicity of it. Once people visit an age restricted community they often find it to be a great way to age.

Enough of the past,  this blog is about Sun City’s future. I have suggested the RCSC should look at allocating up to a million dollars from the Preservation Improvement Fees (PIF) and buy properties for short-term rentals. There are rentals available in Sun City but most are looking for 4 to 6 month agreements or long-term leases. For this to work, we need properties that are available for 3, 4 or 7 day bookings.

I’ve talked to Sun City residents who think this is a bad idea; that PIF shouldn’t be used in that manner. We can and will debate its merits in the years to come because in reality the funding couldn’t happen until the board acted on it in a coming budgetary year. I wouldn’t want to just jump into it without some close scrutiny and the program built in a way that insures it has the best chance for success.

With that said, we have other options in the short-term. We are in the process of building a website with the express purpose of “marketing” Sun City. It would seem to me to be a no brainer to include a Play and Stay page with every available rental in the community listed. We would simply get the information on available rental properties from owners and post up a picture and the contact information. As properties rented, we would take the info down.

It does a couple of things: We become and instant resource for those looking at Sun City and we provide a value added service to those who have purchased a home here but don’t live here yet. It is a wonderful opportunity to deal with some of the angst created by decisions made in the recent past and directed towards owners and buyers who don’t fit the exact parameters established by boards.

Let me be more succinct: There are angry folks who have purchased properties in Sun City but live within 75 miles of the community and cannot use the facilities unless they buy a punch card. We have owners living in Sun City who have been denied cards even though owning multiple properties because of the way they were deeded or that it was not their primary residence. We know some of the changes in card allocation back in 2008 angered a number of residents and coupled with the situations above resulted in residents and owners with a bad taste in their mouth regarding Sun City. Hardly the way to create a stronger sense of community.

My point here is as we look to the future we need be willing to “fix” some of the problems that have come from trying to address concerns by previous boards. It’s not unusual to see overkill to solve a problem, but all too often it results in other issues popping up. I’ve been told the decisions weren’t about trying to squeeze a couple of extra dollars from people based on odd situations so if that is the case, looking openly at these challenges to creating a stronger sense of community shouldn’t be a problem.

I know some cringe at the idea of rental properties in Sun City; in my opinion, that is short-sighted. If we build this program right (Play and Stay), rentals will be the backbone of marketing Sun City and helping re-establish higher property values and selling properties in far greater numbers (which ultimately drives the PIF). We need to start looking at absentee owners in a more fair and favorable light.

So much of life is circular. There are always connections and ties that bind if we are just willing to look at and for them. This is the classic example: Taking what Meeker did then and being able to refit it to today’s lifestyles now just makes perfect sense.

Hope…continued

In the Independent newspaper dated January 18, President Coleman of the RCSC had an article printed entitled “New year brings hope.” It was spot on. The essence was simple; Sun City is a great place to live because there are so many ways to grow as a person. Beyond the clubs and the athletic options, we also have an infrastructure based on volunteerism. Giving back is just as important (maybe even more so) compared to what we take away from this carefree way of life.

Just for the heck of it, let’s dig a little deeper, and drag this discussion into the open air where we can consider the “bigger picture.” I’ve long argued Sun City is a “sum total of its parts.” There is no one thing that makes Sun City great, it’s everything that lends to the joy of living here. The challenge is we all tend to focus on what we see and know. If we just look around, we quickly come to understand there is a myriad of things going on that we don’t see.

Let me give you some examples just how far-reaching Sun City gets: Do you know how many music type clubs there are in Sun City? How many card clubs. Where you can volunteer to drive a golf car transporting visitors or help out raising money for animals at your local thrift store? Have you been in all 7 rec centers or had a bite to eat in the 5 golf snack shops? Did you know there is a food shelf you can volunteer at just outside Sun City? Bocce anyone? How about a spin around the dance floor?

You get the picture, the list is near on endless for ways for Sun City residents to spend their time. With that said, life outside the walls is impacting the way we live inside the walls. More people working later in life, less free time, and in many cases, less disposable income. The pressures of what is happening societally is causing some rupture within Sun City. The oddity is, those same pressures make Sun City even more appealing than it already is.

So, as i see it, we have a bit of a conundrum. We can ignore what is happening or we can face it straight on and find ways to make it work for us. I always would opt for the latter. Problems never just go away, unless one doesn’t give a rat’s behind about the outcomes. Our ability to help shape the future is directly related to the choices we make; and i don’t just mean those elected to positions that have some authority attached to them.

In my humble opinion, the Rec Centers of Sun City is at the crossroads regarding the future. Vance’s column hit the nail on the head…this is “our community” and we are the ones that can make it a better place to live. There is no single organization in Sun City than the RSCS that can help insure we remain a great place to live, help establish a stronger sense of community. By working together we can bring about changes that will solidify our future for decades to come. The RCSC is in a great position to be the glue that holds it all together.

While a minority of others feel they can sue Sun City to a better place, most of us know better. Working with one another is far better than working against the common good. I see nothing but hope for this community. For 51 years we have succeeded because people love living here and are willing to give back. Like Vance, i would encourage you to find a way to fit into the greater good of Sun City’s awesome lifestyle. Lend a hand, be a friend and together we will have nothing but hope and successes for years to come.

Mr. Optimism…

As a kid i loved to watch “professional” wrestling. The theatrics of it all were what intrigued me; the story lines and the promotion of characters was over the top and of course you had to love how emotionally attached some of the fans came to buying into the good versus evil schtick. That fascination followed me late into life when just a few years back someone told me it was all fake. I was devastated. Stop laughing…i knew all along, i’m just a sucker for anything well done and some of these men and women had the capacity to entertain in a wholly different way.

Coming from the midwest, one of my favorite wrestling names and accompanying character developments was for the now deceased Curt Henning. His father Larry was a bigger than life main attraction bad guy in the Verne Gagne hey days of the AWA (American Wrestling Alliance). His son Curt was cut from a different mold; smaller in stature, much quicker and a pretty good athlete. When he jumped ship and went to Vince McMahon’s WWE, he developed a new persona and became “Mr. Perfect.” His promo video’s were awesome; they showed him participating in a half a dozen different snippets of sports doing them all to perfection. Pure camp.

So why this interlude from the good old days? It’s hardly because i’m trying to pass myself off as Mr. Perfect, my wife would be the first to shoot that title down (as well she should). Nope, hardly anything so grandiose, though you may have noticed the header on this blog…Mr. Optimism. Since i sobered up way back when, i have come to believe we all have the capacity to be able to accomplish just about anything we set our minds to.

Let me be clear, the use of we above was intentional. A single person can make a difference in their own life, but impacting bigger picture changes in a collective setting takes more than one person to do so. One of the reasons i fell in love with Sun City was because of that collectivism that exists here. The more we do, the better Sun City survives. Therein lies the problem we have faced in the past 5 years. Fewer people have been expected to do more and the outcomes become less broad. From that comes a more narrow focus.

That doesn’t make anyone bad or evil. In fact, i would argue human nature tends to focus inward or at least in the areas we excel or participate in. Yesterday at the member exchange, we had a bigger turnout than normal. No idea why but it was good to see; unfortunately it was well below what it should be. I won’t speak for the board, but i think to a director, we all understand the need to grow the circle.

Now to the larger point of this all: I wasn’t sure what to expect at the following work session. I won’t go into details, but there was some angst starting out. Once getting by that, we started taking care of business and began looking for common ground and ways to increase participation. I found it both interesting and challenging to work towards something that can and will make Sun City a better place to live. Don’t get me wrong, we have lots of work to do, but i don’t see a single board member who doesn’t understand the need to get more residents involved in the process of governance. Suffice to say, i left the meeting totally optimistic about the next three years.

Of late we have had more than our share of crap from the poster who loves to ruin and rain on every thread. Too bad as that kind of negativity turns people off and drives them away. Most people want to be associated with winners, not losers and whiners (just more human nature coming out). I’m asking that each of you living here make that commitment to get more involved in the community. We have a lot to do, but it is the kind of work that is rewarding, can be quite fun and ultimately keeps Sun City the best retirement community/value in the country.

Just call me Mr. Optimism.

Member exchange…

Dateline January 16, 2012: It’s just an hour and a half before the start of my first member exchange meeting (beginning at 9 am) at the Lakeview Recreation Center social halls and i find myself a bit curious…will members show up? Will it be the usual cast of characters who follow Sun City’s governance? Are there others out there who have quit following or perhaps never did?

That is of interest to me because i ran on the premise we absolutely need to grow the circle of those involved by one hundred to two hundred percent. Seems not everyone feels that way, especially given at least one of the comments during the interview process. As someone pointed out in the past week, changing the culture of any organization is a real challenge. Like a recovering alcoholic, they need to want to change before they can actually begin the process of evolving to something better.

The funny thing is, the blueprints to becoming an even better place to live are right in front of them. John Meeker’s transformation of Sun City into one of the most dynamic communities in the country should be a class taught entitled Sun City 101. From 1965 through build out in 1978, his efforts to energize, mobilize and revitalize the community are legendary. The problem is, very few have taken the time or care enough to study and then incorporate his model.

The RCSC appears quite content to stay in the business as usual mode. Over the past 5 years there has been a flurry of issues that have aggravated residents and driven them further away. Rather than address that, we simply respond by saying we have great communication and really don’t need do anything more than we are doing. In my humble opinion we need to look at the results and perhaps think about doing it different and see if we don’t/can’t reach more people and bring them to the party.

There is a board work session following our member exchange. Apparently the board will have to try to deal with the fact i am doing this blog; seems they weren’t happy with my last post. Should be interesting, the only really bad part of this is i had to miss the third day of our lawn bowls tournament…guess that is the price you pay to get involved. Stay tuned, i may have the first ever double post in a days time.

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